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That Much Advantages Of Limbang To Brunei

To Ahmad,

1. But by again signing the Supplementary Agreement of 1905/1906, it constitutes a silence acceptance of current territorial border at that time. 2. UN has not been setup in 1890 so how can there be 'not allowed'?

The thing is the government doesn't have much desire or commitment to do so, else Brunei's relations with much of the world especially the Western powers is better than Malaysia's. Some say taking back Limbang will cost Brunei heavily as it needs to develop the whole area, like West Germany needs to reconstruct East Germany, but it makes Brunei 'whole', it connects the main part to Temburong. Did I also mention Limbang has huge fertile estuary perfect for farming?

The authorities do not want to face the questions about citizenship/nationality, the different political system Limbang has been under all along, development progress (since they already can't properly develop Brunei), etc. They are as usual, not ready to face the challenges. See the map here: http://tinyurl.com/brulimbang , and you will know how much advantages Limbang is to be Brunei's.

 

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Your map is so wrong
written by Mohammad , November 14, 2009
your map doesnt do justice. Actually Limbang in that agreement contained more than the current Limbang Division. It comprise of Lawas, Limbang and Ba'Kalalan

refer to: http://www.dromoz.com/director...&p=limbang

The map you have displayed is an assumption made by that paper.
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No border between Brunei and Limbang
written by Ahmad , November 14, 2009
To.. Dandallas

Nice to discuss, actually I haven't heard 'the Supplementary Agreement of 1905/1906 that constitutes a silence acceptance of current territorial border at that time'. May be you can show me the article about this later. What I heard from the history that the Rajah Brooke Dynasty had gobbled up plenty of Brunei's territories including that of Limbang which was taken forcibly in 1890 and split Brunei in two. So this is an illegal way. Read this article ‘An abridged history of modern Brunei’ http://www.bt.com.bn/en/life/2...ern_brunei

Yes, UN has not been setup in 1890 but Limbang is taken and controlled by Sarawak (Malaysia) until now 2009, so now this way is not allowed by UN because Limbang is still under dispute area. Limbang is still part of Brunei, there is no border between Brunei and Limbang.

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written by Dandallas , November 15, 2009
To Mohammad, by your map it would mean taking the whole those areas and blocking Sabah connecting to Sarawak. East Malaysia would be divided into 2. No chance at all, Malaysia would fight to death on that. If its only Limbang division there can still be negotiation.

To Ahmad, the treaty of protection 1905/1905 signed with Britain implies Brunei accepted the 'current status' at that time. If you don't recognize something you dont sign an agreement with them. It's like China never sign any treaty with Taiwan till now as each doesnt recognize each other, any contact can be interpreted as recognition. Any treaty signed between both would imply China recognize the sovereign rights of Taiwan. Similarly, Brunei at that time signed the treaty of 1905/1906 allowing British resident to advise on internal and external affairs. The 'external affairs' here is the word. It means silently accepting the border at that time. When a treaty is signed, it has the meaning of "with effect from now/today", and anything happened in the past is considered 'solved' or 'settled', at least its the mentality and how the treaty system worked at that time.

Charles Brooke was a British, whom, like Cecil Rhodes (who on other side of the world, seized Zimbabwe & Zambia), swore loyalty to Queen Victoria. The intention of the British was certainly to sign a treaty as soon as possible pronouncing all past matter 'closed' and began a new chapter based on the status quo.
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written by tree , November 16, 2009
aggrreee
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written by Cal , November 18, 2009
Does the population of Limbang want to be part of Brunei?
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