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Limbang - One Country Two System
Limbang - One Country Two System
Limbang - One Country Two System
Written by Johanny Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:51
Brunei will never win in the territorial disputes (Limbang) with Malaysia, it knows that, that's why it doesn't fight that hard like Singapore taking Malaysia to International Court over those small islands near Johor, and that it kept pretty quiet when Malaysia published it dropped the claims last time even though it was never discussed.
Very easy, Malaysia and the International Court just need to ask few questions; what would happen to those 42,000 folks in Limbang, will they get PR or citizenship? If they can get citizenship what about those born in Brunei stateless? If they can't it means Brunei violated the UN laws and doesn't deserve to take Limbang.
Secondly, Limbang has always been under the democratic system where people vote, and it is the preferred system of the UN. Can Brunei accept one country two systems in Limbang? The Malaysia would just use these 2 points and the Bruneian side will be without a credible reply. ICJ will then have no choice but to declare Limbang Malaysia forever.
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written by Dream , November 11, 2009
Kalau Raja kitani inda dapat memiliki Limbang di dunia ini, di akhirat lebih dari Limbang boleh di perolehi nya,
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written by Observer , November 11, 2009
Dear Johanny, your assumptions are groundless and lack knowledge of international law. To bring a claim to ICJ for example, you'll need an agreement by Malaysia to adhere to the ICJ's jurisdiction. Malaysia would unlikely be agreeable to that. So do your homework first. Thank you.
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written by Awang , November 12, 2009
Brunei will always be peaceful as always with Limbang in or not 
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written by Awg Dagong , November 12, 2009
Brunei only claimed Limbang land. If the people there don't want to be part of Brunei they can go to other places within Malaysia because Malaysia is a big country especially Sarawak.
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written by Really? , November 12, 2009
Malaysia can win? How about brunei can give those Limbang-ans with no personal income tax? almost everything subsidised?
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written by Limbang , November 12, 2009
Why dont we ask limbang people to vote? well since you mention it yourself. 
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written by Ahmad , November 12, 2009
Brunei can win the case of the territorial disputes (Limbang) with Malaysia, if this case brought to ICJ. Just take 2 example facts.
1.The Protectorate Agreement of 17 December 1888 between Brunei and Britain left the Sultan full internal autonomy, but handed over external sovereignty to the British. The annexation of Limbang in 1890 by Charles Brooke was therefore seen as a gross betrayal of trust.
2.The annexation of Limbang in 1890 by Charles Brooke was illegal and was not approved and signed by the Sultan of Brunei. This annexation is illegal and not allowed by the United Nations.
So Brunei can use this facts to win that Limbang is still belong to Brunei.
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1.The Protectorate Agreement of 17 December 1888 between Brunei and Britain left the Sultan full internal autonomy, but handed over external sovereignty to the British. The annexation of Limbang in 1890 by Charles Brooke was therefore seen as a gross betrayal of trust.
2.The annexation of Limbang in 1890 by Charles Brooke was illegal and was not approved and signed by the Sultan of Brunei. This annexation is illegal and not allowed by the United Nations.
So Brunei can use this facts to win that Limbang is still belong to Brunei.
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written by silence , November 12, 2009
Do we really need limbang in the first place? I mean it doesnt matter right whether limbang is under brunei or not. We lived without them and why do we need them now? i just do not understand all the hu-ha being created by all this..
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written by Dandallas , November 12, 2009
With promise of wealth and welfare, some in Limbang might vote to join Brunei. But then it comes with the ban of alcohol, nationality issue unclear, loss of democratic voting rights, and disconnected from a country with 28 million people. Beside, Brunei doesn't include Iban in the Bumiputra group, can Limbang's big Iban population take it, will they willing to suddenly turned into stateless people? A vote won't guarantee a win for Brunei, even worst the opposite effects may occur as Malaysia is very good in media propagation.
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written by Dandallas , November 12, 2009
@Observer: if that is so, then no case would be brought to ICJ since the other (that occupies the land) won't agree. Limbang road is in and out connected to Brunei instead of Sarawak, and is part of the route in Pan Borneo Highway. That can be used as bargaining chip.
@silence: since Brunei is now aiming for food sufficiency and only 5% of its lands is left available for development, getting Limbang and make it contiguous instead of being cut into 2 is widely favorable for all purposes.
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@silence: since Brunei is now aiming for food sufficiency and only 5% of its lands is left available for development, getting Limbang and make it contiguous instead of being cut into 2 is widely favorable for all purposes.
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written by Mr Y , November 12, 2009
I read somewhere from googlebook regarding the issue of Limbang and the disputed of oil reservoir at the Brunei-Malaysia Boundary,
There was an incident happened in 2002 (if Iam not mistaken), where an oil company that work for Brunei was forced to exit the area and later Malaysia claim, the area is belong to them... But In reality the area is actually belong to Brunei.
Then Malaysian oil comapny starts production from that reservoir.
The case was brought to the international law and both country later agree not to do further production until the case was solved.
In the book also mentioned, Our Sultan and the former PM of Malaysia, then starts a discussion, but it was mentioned that Brunei was given an option either to take limbang or the oil reservoir. Of course our HM disagree since both cases are totally unrelated to each other and furthermore for both cases, the reservoir is actually belong to Brunei and Limbang also belong to Brunei (James Brook's agreement.
The evident is there, but the issue BruneiLimbang and the oil reservoir is still not being settled.
But I remembered the case happened last year where after the Malaysia PM paid visit to Brunei, every single malaysia newspaper make a headline that "LIMBANG IS OFFFICIALLY PArT OF MALAYSIA" where the case was never been discussed, according to our Borneo Bulletin report...
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There was an incident happened in 2002 (if Iam not mistaken), where an oil company that work for Brunei was forced to exit the area and later Malaysia claim, the area is belong to them... But In reality the area is actually belong to Brunei.
Then Malaysian oil comapny starts production from that reservoir.
The case was brought to the international law and both country later agree not to do further production until the case was solved.
In the book also mentioned, Our Sultan and the former PM of Malaysia, then starts a discussion, but it was mentioned that Brunei was given an option either to take limbang or the oil reservoir. Of course our HM disagree since both cases are totally unrelated to each other and furthermore for both cases, the reservoir is actually belong to Brunei and Limbang also belong to Brunei (James Brook's agreement.
The evident is there, but the issue BruneiLimbang and the oil reservoir is still not being settled.
But I remembered the case happened last year where after the Malaysia PM paid visit to Brunei, every single malaysia newspaper make a headline that "LIMBANG IS OFFFICIALLY PArT OF MALAYSIA" where the case was never been discussed, according to our Borneo Bulletin report...
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written by Awg Boone , November 13, 2009
Let Limbang be as it is. We don't want another headache to administer another district let alone we are not even well administered in our own backyard. At least, we can still enjoy what Limbang can offer which we can't have here. We have the strong currency advantage to spend and enjoy with families during weekend trips.
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written by zoom , November 13, 2009
Brunei saja kan ambil tanah limbang tuk perjalan tani ke temburong. bukan tuk ambil seluruh limbang. kalau tani ambil seluruh limbang atu, pikirkan tah, tuk tani mengislam kan limbang atu. tiada pelacuran, tiada minuman dan sebagainya....
Mahu tani terima limbang atas dasar keselamatan? Sedangkan negeri tani lagi nda barapa selamat dsebab kecurain, rompakan , pembunuhan. Don't add more burden to take limbang in brunei. We're already a peace country.
So from my opinion. bersyukur tah apa ada nya .mungkin ada hikmah sebalik kejadian time dulu sultan bagi limbang arah james brooke atu.
So, bersyukur.
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Mahu tani terima limbang atas dasar keselamatan? Sedangkan negeri tani lagi nda barapa selamat dsebab kecurain, rompakan , pembunuhan. Don't add more burden to take limbang in brunei. We're already a peace country.
So from my opinion. bersyukur tah apa ada nya .mungkin ada hikmah sebalik kejadian time dulu sultan bagi limbang arah james brooke atu.
So, bersyukur.
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written by NIMU , November 14, 2009
malas tah ku ingau kan sama kerakyatan dengan orang limbang ani. jual durian pun mahal, ambong tia jua lagi lainnya....
nda ku kan terhegeh-hegeh hantap nyamu......nda jua berapa limbang atu kan dirabutkan...
kalau dapat jual sikit temburong atu pakai enjoy..kawin sama orang malaysia kah, indon kah thailand kah, pilipin kah...
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nda ku kan terhegeh-hegeh hantap nyamu......nda jua berapa limbang atu kan dirabutkan...
kalau dapat jual sikit temburong atu pakai enjoy..kawin sama orang malaysia kah, indon kah thailand kah, pilipin kah...
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written by Lala! , January 01, 2010
Guys,
first fact why do we need limbang?
1)Wake up! Limbang divided Brunei into two plus if Limbang join Brunei..Look at the advantages! They will be give home,medical facilities and all
2)It is the Harta Kuripan or Tulin of Sultan Abdul Hashim
3)Brunei will be one if Limbang Join Brunei
The advantages for Limbang:
1) free medical facilites
2)Will be given home (Perumahan)
3)Land price will be high(advantages for the people who have lands)
4)Free School
and the list go on and on
I am Bruneian but My Mom is from Limbang..so yeah
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first fact why do we need limbang?
1)Wake up! Limbang divided Brunei into two plus if Limbang join Brunei..Look at the advantages! They will be give home,medical facilities and all
2)It is the Harta Kuripan or Tulin of Sultan Abdul Hashim
3)Brunei will be one if Limbang Join Brunei
The advantages for Limbang:
1) free medical facilites
2)Will be given home (Perumahan)
3)Land price will be high(advantages for the people who have lands)
4)Free School
and the list go on and on
I am Bruneian but My Mom is from Limbang..so yeah
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