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Jogathon: To sasak & Dilemma. how to tackle her..tackle lah, you a man, skill yg ku ajar atu mana?..beramas mesra and bersilaktur rahim atu penting.Nya nini mesti pandai menyelam hatinya bah,diving into her heart...and shoot her with panah asmara,then who knows she is gila bayang with you, with so much imagination sampai ia mandi tak kenyang,tidor tak basah,maggi mee diucap murtabak,nasi beriyani dikata bubor chacha.Ahhh...atu gila bayang tah tu ia kan kedikau...stand on your 2 feet bah kata Si Lobet Heng, isshh!!..hidup cia lagi karang racism ani, bah tutop cia issue racism ani,boying ku membaca. Ada issue baru kalau abiskita interested kan mendebate pasal Jogathon biasanya mengutip derma sebanyak-banyak siapa banyak dapat free air ticket lah, VCD player.Tapi whenever we have collect sampai $300 plus nada ada apa2 janji manis hadiah atu.Pehak sekolah atu bukan apa tu saja kan collect as much as they can and the victim is anak sekolah dijadikan alat.good examples is St. James! .stationary charged but the kids have to buy jua stationary. clever school.wish the school like Manchester United the richest football club in the world so do this school.sekian, Wassalam.... Esmit UlamaRaja 28.02.2002
To SASAK & DILEMMA: Hmm... finally a post not about racism or country problems!! Having a relationship with a friend cum colleague is a bit difficult.  In the first place, if you tell her your feelings and she doesn’t reciprocate, then it's really going to be awkward.  If she does have feelings towards you, then there's the possibility that there may be problems in the future.  Again this might be awkward.
My advice is first, confirm from your part.  Are you sure you are in love or are you just having a crush?  If it's a crush, then forget it and get rid of that feeling.
If you are in love, then try somehow to find out whether she has any feelings for you or not, or whether there is any possibility. This can be done via your friends who know both of you.  Or even by yourself, since you are friends with her and she probably would not mind telling you. If all is still well, then I would suggest probably that you tell her how you feel and that you would like to be more than just friends.
By the way, I talk from experience.  I fell in love with a very good friend, since we were so compatible.  However, it seems that she had feelings for me as well, but was trying her best not to expose it, as some of my traits were not on her list of the perfect man.  Anyway, just to say, we still remained friends after that. Good Luck Sasak and dilemma!!! MAT!! 28.02.2002
Good work: This just goes to show that the border security between brunei and miri is actually 'Beefing up'. Even after a year, the issue wasn’t forgotten and neglected. Praises to the officer who identified the stolen car.  nQ 28.02.2002
tell her that u love her lah!: To Sasak & Dilemma: c'mon man!! what are u afraid of? just tell her how u feel...u might not know that she’s got a thing for u too!! but then, kalau inda pun, there’s nothing ull be regreting d kemudaian hari....at least u told her, n ur being sincere, enough said! good luck anyway :) a woman myself 28.02.2002
Peeing Policeman That's the thing with our Bruneian Policeman.... No discipline at all.  Even when they are on duty or not. They should set an example to the public so that the public have faith on them but in this case, he ruined the good reputation of Brunei Police Force.  No wonder there were a lot of cases that was won by the criminal due to the carelessness and incompetence of the officer. High Pitch 28.02.2002
Chinese Not A Threat: 'Global Hermit' has made some very good points about Brunei and the Malay mentality. I am Chinese, but I can understand your fears and aspirations - you put them across very well. However I don't believe that the Malay identity is under threat from the Chinese community - after all, Malay people are not absorbing Chinese practices or customs. Today a lot of Malay people (in Brunei especially) are highly educated, affluent, well travelled - so I don't think that Chinese people in Brunei have any inherent advantage, economic, educational or otherwise. I don't mean to be offensive but surely the fear that Malays will be dominated is a sign of deep-rooted cultural insecurities? 
Many Chinese people consider Brunei to be their 'home' and yes, we have to live with what we are given. We are grateful to live peacefully in Brunei, but we also serve the country in many capacities - so we are not freeloaders, we earn our living just like everyone else. It's not that we want to isolate ourselves, but we are proud of our cultural heritage and we want to preserve it. I agree with you that a lot of the problem is religion - but how much of the Malay/Brunei identity is bound up with Islam? Surely there were Malays before Islam came to this region - and what about the people in the Philippines who are also 'Malay' but not muslim?
Anyway, I'm tired of hearing negative comments about Brunei and the endless back-and-forth personal insults about Chinese vs Malay. The fact is, Chinese or Malay, if you are a Brunei citizen then you are in the same boat. This boat is having problems staying afloat - and only rational, constructive criticism is going to help the country. Positive 28.02.2002
Change the topic I agree with apalah. Its nice to see that racism is not an oblivious issue and many people have expressed their feelings about it. However how about discussing other issues can be as debatable and interesting to fight about? How about it? Any intellect out there? Singa angkor@hotmail.com 28.02.2002

All in a day's read I will be doing this in a reverse chronological order.
Firstly, when someone mentioned what JFK said about what we can do for the country and vice-versa. Everything we do we expect something in return, be it in terms of materials reward or security like peace. But however in a context of should I term it marginalisation of non-indigenous people in Brunei. We would expect people who were born in a particular country be eligible to CHOOSE (not given automatically like some who mentioned) to have citizenship of that country he(no sexism meant) was born in and choose to live in(we will see that there are people who are citizens but do not reside in their country).
Also need acknowledging is the fear of Malay. It is very true that racism  stems from

 very fear of other races. But we cannot let fear conquer us. Fear brings froth xenophobia. This then translates to self-perseverance, which manifested as racism and ultimately hatred. Fearing and suppressing is never the way forward.
No one even gave the notion that granting citizenship to everyone can eliminate racism, but at least, we create equality. And equality is essential to a prospering nation. Without equality, in comes nepotism and favouritism. Even that mindset has createed margin in the majority.
The failure to integrate of Chinese is a well observed theory but cannot be explained by saying they are unwilling to integrate. How would you define integration? You can change one's nationality but you cannot change one's Culture, Language and Religion. This is where Malay themselves fear, loss of their own culture, isn't it? It is thus simple to see that, when Chinese or Indian or Arab, the ancient trader races, settled in a new country, they have to preserve their culture. I quote those China towns, Arab Street, Little Venice. It is plain human nature to feel more at ease with people who speak our own language, eat the same food and do the same thing that we do, anyone disagree to that?
What someone has suggested would be asking all Chinese to become Malay, so as to integrate into a Malay society. To quote 'If the Chinese were predominantly Muslims, I am of the opinion that racial integration would be smoother when bounded by a common theological ground.'
Remember the dispute of tudong row in Singapore? If Chinese there asked Malays to convert their culture and religion, imagine the outrage from our readers. There, simply cannot be done, Chinese remain Chinese, just as Malay will be Malay, wherever they are. That is why Chinese is strong in the first place.
Hysteria that Chinese will take over any country is stupid and groundless. I think Chinese should thank the government for letting them to stay. Even then, like Indonesia, the Chinese who controlled her veins, do they ask more than mere home? Did they go over to take over Indonesia and establish it as a Chinese 'Singapore'? Indonesia even asked Chinese to drop their Chinese name (recently reverted) but still Chinese submit to one of the most degrading thing in their culture, all for a place to belong to, a HOME, like one said. After all, Chinese did not take over Singapore. Please revise Singapore's history. It is Chinese who gain upper advantage. Why? Simply because Chinese work hard to earn a place call his home.
If we could use motherland to refer to Brunei, would anyone disagree that for a child to love her mother, her mother must shown caring, unbiased, total commitment to her children? In JFK terms, what has the country done for us, for us to contribute back, if we were stated as STATELESS (bringing in the notion to all people that NO, you do not belong to Brunei, she does not want you, you cry baby who complain non-stop.)Asking people to leave the country is the idiot's solution. Hopefully there is a solution or formula to help all races to establish their strengths and complement each other's weaknesses. That is the answer to this long overdue problem. Social Critic sc@brudirect.com 28.02.20

Manakan ku bari diBruneiiiii ani Eh gang, aku inda mau cakap pasal racsim ani, makin hari makin panas,karang melatup computer ku ani...Ani nah siapa tau dimanakan membari baju baru-baru kanak-kanak ah yang baru,bukan indada secondhand value ada,tapi aku inda sanggup menjual untuk dapat usin...Kalau bolih mana-mana Organisasi yang kamu tau yang sanggup menerima baju-baju yang masih baik dan baru ani,please tell me......Kali jua ada lagi urang lain yang interested.Sama-sama tani share.Baju-baju ani bukan untuk dijual tapi dibari arah urang yang dirasa mau menerima......Anybody please. Mayah mamayahpapi@hotmail.com 28.02.2002
Ikan  Takut ikan basar menunggap...so tangkap ikan damit sahaja. Nelayan 28.02.2002
Navy - Muara Beach Di bruclass org complain sal Navy ani sekali saja kan membersih beach beach ani.  So what!! Not their line of work...  Mana tah JKR, Bandaran etc... Moreover ketani as user pun cuai, pemugut, pegotor. Apa jua jauh dustbin. Padan tah most of us are gemuk, kan buang sampah 100 meter pun kan mati rasanya... Not all of us are born to be perfect but to become one we must make an effort and learn to care & respect Geram 28.02.2002

Journalist/Editor  BB Kamu ani cuba tah buat report/survey professional. Apa profession kamu???  Bila ke site buat laporan kah or megambang ... Ya tah salah laporan jadi nya...  Kadang2 baik pulang mengantar article sendiri yg buat.. Reader 28.02.2002

Rotting BruNet services: Just want to know from those who living in Berakas about their internet connection nya lambat macam kura kura nazak kan masuk kubur ganya nda kah ? I have brought my pc to do its downloading at Sengkurong and macam e speed kana bubut pulis saja lajunya. Di berakas ani kenapa ia lambat? Di komplen arah counter jtb atu tenglur jua orangnya.
Taktik supaya nyuruh orang masang e speed kah? Mun catu baota banar tah tu orang kaja jtb ani. Makan gaji saja tiap bulan tapi komplen orang pasal "kecepatan" Brunet ani malar udah masuk kuar Borneo Bulletin tapi orang pihak atasan jtb ani pacahkan mata ganya nda peduli. Inda Malu kah? Apa dorang ani tau terima gaji seribu dua ribu sebulan campur sumpahan orang setiap masa tiap kali connection putus? mana tia sifat amanah biskita dalam menjalankan tugas atu? Mun nda mau kaja baik branti jual nasi katuk saja dapan rumah. Ada jua untungnya.
kalau Cematu tah usulnya, Baik tah kerajaan reshuffle ataupun pecat saja orang pihak atasan yang tau makan gaji buta ganya. Banyak lagi orang yang lebih baik,lebih bertanggungjawab and ada rasa pemedulian terhadap complen brunet customers ani. Jgn tau laung laungkan espeed saja. Siapa palui banar kan membayar $98 sebulan? $98 dapat jua di blanjakan membayar bil tipun nda pun dapat jua membali barang yang lebih berfaedah. Frustated  exasperated@hotmail.com 28.02.2002
Shop won't exchange goods I had a rather similar experience with Sh-himco, the textile shop in Kiulap (maybe the same one as in the report?). Immediately after buying a kain there I sent it to my cutter to have it made into a baju kurong for an up-coming wedding celebration. The next day, I got a call from the cutter saying that the kain had some stains on it. When I called the shop to complain, a very rude sales assistant who hung up on me before I finished talking attended me. When I called back to give her a piece of my mind, the call was answered by the boss who told me to come in with the stained kain. I did just that and showed it to her. She argued that the textiles they order are of the finest quality and are usually inspected for quality control. She pointed out that the stains were oily in nature and might have resulted from the cutter's sewing machine. I put up a fight and asserted that it could not have been so because I just bought the kain and as a customer, I should have
 the right to have it exchanged if a refund was not possible. Since we were creating quite a commotion in the shop, the boss finally relented and said that she would exchange it because she "cares for her customer's satisfaction." However, I believe that if I had not been more assertive, I would not have got a replacement for the stained kain. Just last weekend, I went to Mothercare (not the one in Brunei though because I'm currently in the UK) and while waiting to pay for my goods, the woman in front of me was complaining to the cashier about a blouse she had bought which became 'fuzzy' after one washing. She expressed her dissatisfaction on the quality and you know what? The cashier just took the blouse and told her that she would get a refund in the form of coupons. No questions asked, no accusations that it might have resulted from her washing machine, the detergents which she had used or her not following the washing instructions, nothing. I was so impressed! It was as
simple as that, no hassle, no bickering. If only it could be as easy as that in Brunei. Woman 28.02.2002
Do your home work & tuition on Brunei ,mate! To Buyung pipit.Di jajah bukan kepunyaan dan pentadbiran bangsa asing secara tidak langs!
Do your home work & tuition on Brunei ,mate! To Buyung pipit.Di jajah bukan sahaja bererti dengan penaklokan secara peperangan dan pertumpahan darah.Maksud di bawah telunjuk sebelum kemerdekaan ia lah cara pentadbiran negara yang memerlukan persetujuan dari kerajaan British dan hingga sekarang ani undang undang negara Brunei pun masih Britisl law.Behapa tia tahun tahun dulu sir Deny Robert atu menyibuk ka Brunei court.Semua kes kes terpaksa refer ka kedia.Mengapa orang kitani dan bangsa kitani tidak dapat membuat keputusan dan undang undang cara orang Brunei.Kes senjata api yang lalu apabila di bawa bicara ka UK,alhamdullilah ringan hukuman nya kerana British law tiada mengenakan Capital punishment(Hukum gantung)di atas kesalahan yang di sebutkan.Siapa bausin kalau kan kana gantung pasal mengedar dadah refer saja ka UK court gerenti tiada kana gantung,habis habis kana penjara lima enam tahun.Mengenai berbilang kaum India ,Cina, Melayu dan orang putih ,itu adalah kaum.Tetapi dalam hubungan Dusun,Tutung,Murut,Kedayan itu adalah bangsa ethinic di Brunei yang sebagaimana di gazetkan sebagai 7 bangsa asli atau pribumi Brunei.Kalau kan di katakan saya ani bukan bangsa Brunei mungkin pipit ani kan terabang bersama enggang.Saya adalah waris Keturunan Pehin Orang Kaya Digadong Seri Nara dan nama saya ada di catetkan di dalam buku sejarah "Chatatan sejarah Perwira Perwira dan Pembesar Pembesar Brunei" keluaran 1973 dimana buku ini di susun oleh Pehin Jamil Al sufri di atas menjunjung titah Almarhum Paduka Seri Begawan sultan sir Muda Omar Ali saifuddin.Saya merasa bangga kerana demikian di mana sepatutnya jika Pipit berasal Brunei Jati beri lah sumbangan untuk bangsa dan Negara Brunei walau tiada mendapat catetan.Masa hadapan negara dan kedaulatan negara bergantung kepada kebijaksanan dan penghayatan serta rasa bertanggung jawab untuk negara sebelum menjadi negara yang pada hakikat nya hanya kulit yang ada pada kita tapi isi nya kepunyaan dan pentadbiran bangsa asing secara tidak langsung.Lihat lah kebelakang kita Negara Indonesia ,ke kanan kita Pilippina ,Keatas kita Thailand di mana kedaulatan negara tiada di hormati oleh bangsa asing.Jangan sampai tehantuk baru teradah!Bukan lah maksud kita memusuhi bangsa asing tetapi berpada kerana sejarah sebagai saksi dan di mana bangsa yang telah merasai nya.Jangan lah lagi ada nya Bangsa Melayu sebagai orang kelas Kedua di tanah Brunei sebagaimana waktu British."Terima kasih tuan" dan "Maaf tuan". Sarip Dol 28.02.2002
Minority Issue: mengenai hal minority dan isu pekauman ani...all I want to say is 'adangtah!'...I mean, really, stop with all this whinging and whining about stuff like that...we should be grateful with what Brunei has provide as with...if u can't accept that, then well I believe that you should migrate somewhere else...I must admit I'm disgusted really with all these pathetic complaints...here I would like to share with all of you a story about a Chinese family...there's the mother, a single parent and her 3 children. I must say that they led a hard life before and it didn't help at all with most people whinging about racists issues. However, this family is a true Bruneian family, they never whinge. You want to know why? It's because they know that they are bruneians. They never differentiate themselves with the Malays. Even their Brunei-Malay language is far better than mine, which amazes me. I really respect this family. For your information, all three went to UK as government scholars!
How amazing is that? As far as I'm concerned, even Malays have a hard time getting their hands on those scholarships. I'm even more touched by them when I saw how excited they were whenever His Majesty the Sultan or the other royal family come down to visit their kampung for 'becemar duli'. To me, this shows the love they have for our leader...I'm not sure how you readers will react to this story of mine, one might say 'aaaah this person is just making this up'. Well, it's up to you to believe it or not but this is a true story which changed me. I used to whinge about things in Brunei but after I met this family, I began to be grateful with life in Brunei. It made me see Brunei from a different perspective...thank you. Angel 28.02.2002
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Racism - To Mark: My dear Mark, I would love to beat you up IF you allow me. With IF, anything is possible. M  28.02.2002
to those who lengthen the racism issue, cukup lah!. don't be so incongruent to society. just like what JFK said, don’t ask what r your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. dont just throttle gibberishly about your sucks in your life, keep it to your self.
i am local, earning just $250, but i am happy, i do things for god, and it makes me happy. if you don’t like Brunei, leave. if you like brunei, stay. make up your mind. if you are chinese or indians then its okey, not everyone is as perfect bah. what? 27.02.2002
Cenderahati: Bruneian: benar tu apa ya kita beri tahu, anu ani banyak terjadi kes-ske macam ani di singapore if you walk along Orchard road dan di Kota Kinabalu,Sabah. macam2 kan diorang offer buang masa sahaja mendangar aku pernah sampai 6 jam bercerita sama diorang ani akhir2 aku inda mau membali suruh nya tia menderam saja walau pun seringgitnya awas-awas abis kita pasal kalau ia memanggil ke opis nya bercerita pasal travelling, holiday, investing tia macam kalau abis kita inda mau ia titu minta derama tia. bah atu awas-awas. Concern 27.02.2002
Makan angur: Bila tah kami ani kan keraja? Tunggu punya tunggu mati kelaparan tah kami ni. Ucapan bisdurang (ministry of health) menunggu waran. Entah inda ku tau lagi. Mun nada kekosongan untuk kami bagitau saja jangan tah kan beselindung. Ani sudah 3 bulan kami menunggu dan mengangur. Kan mencari keraja lain takut karang mengejut kana pangil dari kementerian. Ehh susah-susah!. Apatah sebenarnya yang berlaku ni. Siapa tah yang kan bertanggung jawab arah kami lepasan jururawat ani. Dimana tah bisdurang kan menempat kami ani sebagai jururawat dan pelajar yang masih menuntut di nursing college atu. Tolong kami Tuan...! Putera 27.02.2002
pencuri masa hari raya haji: terima kasih banyak2 kerana masuk kerumah kami... and tunggu saja balasan nya di akhirat.. c u then. pH7 27.02.2002
H E L P ! ! !: HOW to let a woman know that you LOVE her and she is your friend cum colleague? I am worrying that she might have a boyfriend already. Sasak & Dilemma 27.02.2002
racism in Brunei: "RACISM IN BRUNEI" BO LAH MANA ADA, U C NO MATTER WHAT U DO EITHER U R GOVERNMENT OR NON GOVERNMENT U STILL CAN TAN TCHIAK HERE. GET IT, U YELLOW OR RED OR GREEN IC BRUNEI STILL A HEAVEN PLACE TO STAY. HM WILL NOT LET HIS SUBJECT TO BOH HOH TCHIAK. SO, THANKS TO HM NOT TO RECOGNISE THE UNTHANKFUL PEOPLE WHO CARI MAKAN AT BRUNEI BUT STILL DONT KNOW HOW TO SAY KAMSIAH. dorii ann 27.02.2002
To Mark: My sister's son was born (not bornED) - 14 years in Canada didn't do much for your command of the English language, huh? - in the UK but he isn't a British citizen. As a matter of fact, he is a Bruneian citizen because his father is a yellow IC-holder. Now who gave you this stupid notion that you'll automatically be a citizen of a said country if you're born in that country? It doesn't work elsewhere in the world, so why do you think Brunei should make an exception in this case? The issue of citizenship and how to obtain one has been discussed immensely in previous messages so maybe you should take the time out to review the Have Your Say archive. But to answer your question, no, you do NOT have to be Malay in order to be a citizen. My cousin is Malay born and bred in Brunei but he's not a citizen. And I've Chinese friends who are citizens. So there, living proofs! And you related to us your experience of being beaten up and being a victim of name-callings, and then you went on to say that it's due to the Brunei Government. What? You mean the Government inflicted these sort of abuses on you? Or did the Government or its policies in anyway encourage such taunting? No? Then, why did you make a correlation between the abuses and the working infrastructure of the Government? Your story does not make any sense at all! You quoted that your family migrated to Canada because of you were subjected to racial abuses but what's that got to do with the Government of Brunei? Oh come on, you people! Stop making all these nauseating over-generalizations! Look, it's been said many times now - there is NO denying that racism DOES exist in Brunei. But to associate the Government of Brunei with acts of racism is unforgivable and very premature indeed. By the way Mark, the Dark Ages are the period from the late 5th century to about 1000 A.D. and NOT the 1900s as you implicated. Sheeshhh....such ignorance! No wonder you're an ignoramus in other aspects as well. Zenobia 27.02.2002
Kaling To K.A Ling: Thank you very much for your informative insights into the origin of the word 'kaling.' However, what still mystifies me is, how in the world did such a word become derogatory? Based on the account you provided us with, it seems that the Kalingas were very properous and enterprising. It ought to be natural to assume that one would be very proud to be likened to them. But the reverse has occurred. Now, why do you think that is so? Nemesis 27.02.2002
Pencuri Kerita Tahniah kepada Pegawai Kastam yang menjalankan tugasnya sehingga tertangkapnya pencuri kerita Awg Abdul Hamid.  Begitulah sepatutnya setiap pegawai kastam supaya senantiasa berwaspada dan senantiasa "vigilant" bagi setiap kerita yang keluar masuk dari Negara Kita yang tercinta.  Bagi setiap Pegawai yang bertugas di sempadan hendaklah senantiasa memastikan yang mereka setiap saat menjaga ketenteraman dan  kesejahteraan diri dan harta benda setiap warga Brunei.  Kitani warga Brunei tidak boleh tunduk kepada ancaman pencuri dan perosak-perosak keamanan terutama sekali yang dibuat oleh warga negara jiran kita dan kita hendaklah memastikan bahawa ada kerjasama di setiap lapisan masyarakat warga Brunei bagi kesejahteraan sesama kita. High Pitch Hep_PP@hotmail.com 27.02.2002
Response to Sarip Dol  I have a hunch that you are not a Bruneian - Your knowledge of Brunei History needs some fine tuning mate!!  Sejak bila tah kitani ani "dibawah telunjuk bangsa asing sebelum kemerdekaan"?  Brunei was never a British Colony but a British Protected state where the British only advised on foreign affairs period. HM did not have to answer to anyone.
And what is wrong with having 'China Town' - Kg Berangan in our midst - the few Malays that used to live in the Kg that I knew spoke excellent Hokkien, which I thought was fantastic. In S'pore you have Little India. In Australia you have Greek Quarter, Italian Quarter, Vietnamese Quarter, Burmese Quarter etc. In London, you have the Somalian Quarter, Turkish Quarter etc.
Lurus tu, konsept Brunei ialah Melayu, Islam, Beraja.  In your very unsubtle hints about 'bangsa asing' - which spells loudly Chinese, do you have to make us out like some sort of rash that is about to overtake & invade the body!!  Talk about paranoia!! You are so impartial to the 'berbilang kaum'aspect too - so where does that leave the Dusun, Murut & Iban in this context - may I ask?
PS I'm half Chinese & half Dusun - does that mean I'm in or out? Pipit 27.02.2002
Malay Fears and Aspirations This is a continuation of my earlier opinion. I feel that it is only right in the spirit of honest and fair debate that it be known what I, as a Malay Bruneian, FEAR and ASPIRE TO in the light of the Chinese 'experience' in Brunei.
Racist behaviour in whatever form can never be justified. Nor can we deny that racism exists everywhere, even in Brunei, and even in the "multi-cultural paradise" that Mark (the former Brunei Chinese) has found in Canada. However, we would only be deceiving ourselves if we think that granting citizenship and all the rights and privileges that come with it to everybody that were born in Brunei, that racial discontent would be eliminated. Malays everywhere have assumed a 'siege mentality' when it comes to dealing with the Chinese issue. In Brunei especially, a small country with a small population, the feeling of subconscious fear is more prevalent. As Malay I truly fear that we may lose our nation, our culture and our identity (and be forced to take a back seat just as the Malays do in their 'own home', Singapore). It is a real threat that I perceive, thus as any other human being would do, I feel fear. Yet, I also aspire for a peaceful and prosperous Brunei, where we can preserve our cultural and religious identity, while maintaining good relations with everyone, regardless of race or creed.
The Chinese in Brunei need to know this. The Chinese must realise that if the Brunei Malays were so racist and 'evil' we would have kicked you out long ago. Yet, we did not. We even allowed you to prosper to the point that you control the very veins of our economic life. The Chinese must know and understand Malay fears, and act accordingly to allay our fears if they wish to be accepted. At the moment, the Chinese simply complain and demand without bothering to know why the Malays have assumed such an attitude. In short, the Chinese must tell and prove to the Malays that they too are true Bruneians (you can start out by speaking like we do) with unconditional loyalty, unlike the pseudo-loyalty that Mark in Canada claims to profess, he says, and I quote: "I still love Brunei if Brunei still loves me". For us Brunei Malays, there is no IF in our love and loyalty to our nation. For us, its not just about making money, for us, Brunei is home. Global Hermit paradigm68@hotmail.com 27.02.2002
Customer service:  Very well, to be blunt, yes! It’s DST. I would have mentioned HER name if only she was wearing her nametag that I believed all counter staff should have one. Obviously it was nowhere to be seen, probably left tucked inside the drawer, home or God knows where. Perhaps the dept don’t have the decency to provide their staff with one! ah yes...another example of BAD customer service...tskh tskh.. rainmaker 26.02.2002
Bangsa Brunei,Melayu,Islam dan Beraja: In the olden days the Chinese came to Brunei as "a trader and lately turned out to be invaders" worldwide. Di serata dunia pun diaorang kan membuat China Towns. Kampungan Berangan pun kan jadi China Town, elampau banafsu.Take care of our small and tiny Brunei or else be a "Dagang di tanah tumpah darah sendiri".Mereka ini tak akan pernah merasa bersyukur dengan kenikmatan yang di berikan oleh kerajaan ,walaupun pada hakikat nya mereka ini tidak layak mendapat layan yang istimewa sebagaimana anak bumi putra itu sendiri.Sebagai minority yang menumpang kasih di tanah asal bangsa melayu mereka sepatut nya akur dengan cara hidup bangsa melayu ,adat serta tata susila bangsa serta kerajaan melayu yang penuh di kandung adat.Mereka sepatut nya bersyukur dengan kenikmatan serta kesenangan  yang di perolehi.Menuding jari serta menchemoh kepada kerajaan serta rakyat Brunei di atas dasar kerajaan mengenakan UJIAN untuk mendapatkan taraf kebangsaan bagi mendapatkan hak sebagaimana hak anak bumiputra adalah satu penghinaan kepada Kerajaan serta bangsa Brunei kerana dasar negara bukan lah BERBILANG kaum tetapi Melayu ,Islam dan Beraja.Kita sudah sekian lama di bawah telunjuk bangsa asing sebelum kemerdekaan.Di mana generasi kita yang terdahulu sentiasa menyatakan "Ya tuan" , "saya tuan".Tetapi kini jangan lah ada bangsa asing pula yang chuba menuding jari memberi arahan untuk kita ,serta  mengajar kita bagaimana untuk memajukan dan membangun negara serta bangsa Brunei yang tercinta dengan cara mereka.Bukan nya kita hendak mempertikai kan mana mana bangsa tetapi chabaran telah di persoalankan di atas kewibawaan bangsa Brunei untuk memajukan bangsa dan negara.Kesalahan yang lalu menjadi pengajaran di mana kesilapan menjadi cabaran. Selamat menyambut Hari kebangsaan ke 18."Melayu tak akan hilang dari dunia" let it be Brunei Malay Islam & Monarchy rule! Hidup Melayu, hidup Negara Brunei. What a waste of my breath for this small hearted looser. Sarip Dol 26.02.2002
Ayamku: Have any of you been to Ayamku restaurant? Am I the only person out there who thinks it is one of the worst eating places in the country? Of course I'm not talking about the price, it's the cheapest around. The chicken is not bad either.
But I'm talking about the exceptionally pathetic customer service. Their workers rarely ever smile, let even courteously greet their customers, and their service is way too slow. How can the counter attendant be the same person who prepares the food as well? As for hygiene, if the Ministry of Health conduct a spot check at their Batu Bersurat branch, they may be able to find chicken bones splattered all over the place, not to mention a very dirty looking floor. This is only my personal view. But I'm sure some of you may share the same views as mine. Chicken Lover 26.02.2002
Racism: To Global Hermit: Excellent! It's really amazing that you could turn around the issue and give us a new angle to look at. With that fresh air of yours, no doubt the debate will go further rather than otherwise. M 26.02.2002
cenderahati Kan berkongsi pengelaman saja supaya biskita berjaga-jaga. Ada satu syarikat dari Yayasan komplex selalunya mereka ani menelefon pelanggan katanya bisita kan dapat cenderahati daripada syarikat bisdurang kerana TERPILIH jadinya suruhnya kami mengambil hadiah di sana KATANYA sampai kami disana diterangkanlah satu persatu. Tapi yang inda kami tepakai hadiah cenderahati nya atu mesti membali barang 1000+ keatas dalam masa 24 jam kalau indanya hadiah atu (hangus) inda dapat di ambil kata bisdurang kalau inda membali, inda menipu kan tu. Barang yang di jual bisdurang inda sama kali harganya di kadai kali 1000+ keatas tah ganya. Yang kesian orang tua-tua atu bisdurang telampau iski bisdurang dapat cenderahati 3000+ keatas kata kadai atu tapi kalau di kira-kira bisdurang rugi kana tipu inda lagi mengira-ngira harga di kadai. CUMA KAN BERKONGSI PENGELAMAN Bruneian 26.02.2002
racism Whoever is telling you that racism does not exist in Brunei is probably on some sort of medication. I am one of the living proof. My family and I migrated to Canada in 1988 because of this issue. I am a chinese that was borned in Brunei. I have been called various nasty names and beaten because I was a chinese boy in school. My parents were born in Brunei and I can't believed we do not have a citizenship. What the hack do you need to be a citizen of a country, a malay prehaps? But..but, I would like to thank the Brunei government for treating me like a orphan because I have found myself in a great muti-cultural paradise, Canada. Wakeup BRUNEI, it is the year of 2002, we are no longer in the 1900s. Stop keeping your country in the dark ages. All I ever wanted was to be a good loyal citizen and you have failed me. Who would have thought that the marvel of the internet could create such a freedom of speech and freedom of knowledge. Your people will see through your pityful government's infrastructure which vividly corner your minority race. I still love Brunei if you still love me. Mark.  Mark 26.02.2002
The Meaning of Kaling To those arguing and wondering about the word 'Kaling' and its origins. Well here is an excerpt from a researcher on South East Asian and Indian relations (Note, this is a derogative word so please respect each other and don't use it just like you don't want others to call you something):
KLING OR KALING. 
This is a derogative word to name people of Indian origin in Brunei, Malaysia, and Singapore. The origin of the word can be traced in the ancient history of India and its relation with South East Asian countries. These were the people who once controlled the trade of south East Asian countries.
The Kling or Kaling comes from the name of the ancient country of Kalinga on the eastern shores of India. Panini, a grammarian, in 600 BC, mentioned Kalinga as the only country in the eastern side of South India, known to him. People of Kalinga migrated to various parts of South East Asia, while Hindu kingdoms existed in this area. They played an important role in the development of these countries to its present position.
K.A.Nilakanta Sastri mentions in his book, Foreign Notices of South India, (Page 311) an extract from Indian merchants and merchandise in Malacca from Castanheda (1528-38), that Malacca was the most important and had the richest merchandises in the known whole world at that time. Majority of the population on the northern part of Malacca were merchants from Kalinga, India, known as Quelins. They were pagans.  At that period, they were the greatest merchants of the world and were very rich. They evaluated their wealth by the weight of gold that they possessed. Some of them possessed as much as six thousand kilograms of gold.  They never considered a man rich, if he was not able to buy three or four ships of merchandise a day and pay with their proper amounts.
A number of ships visited the port of Malacca during this period. They brought the cloves of Molucus, the camphor of Borneo, the mace and black nut-meg of Banda and the white and red sandal of Timor.  Also ships loaded with pepper arrived from Malabar
The Chinese ships came to Malacca to buy pepper, cloth from Cambaya, from Bengal and from Palecate. From the Red Sea came ships carrying Grains, saffron, yellow coral, red lead, mercury, opium, the drugs of Cambaya called cacho and pucho and other articles of merchandise.
By their presence, the people of Kalinga made Malacca a busy business center. During this period, Brunei was ruled by Sultan Bolkiah (1473 - 1521) and by Sultan Abdul Kahar (1521 - 1575) and Singapore was a very small village of about twenty houses. K. A. Ling 26.02.2002
Racism by the Hermit Global Hermit, O wise one! I salute you and praise your wisdom. Congratulations indeed on your very eloquently-expressed views on this matter. Beware of the backlash in the forum as I can guarantee you that there will be one, soon! Nevertheless, I think you have presented a rather well-founded argument here. Bravo to you!  Orang Islam di United Kingdom 26.02.2002
Racism Here's what I've got to say about all this bru-hah-ha surounding the accusations of racism in Brunei: understandably, the people who have long been in Brunei, especially those who were born in Brunei and do not hold Bruneian citizenship, and more specifically the Chinese whether they hold citizenship or not, feel 'marginalized' by the attitudes of the Malay majority and by Government policy. But for the Chinese, it is just very convenient for them to throw around the 'racism' accusations whenever they feel things are not going their way. Citizenship, for one, is NOT a right, it is a privilege. Every country around the world has imposed their own criteria for citizenship, and Brunei has done the same. Citizenship criteria, economic policies, social policies and other institutional actions are all designed to protect the national interest. Socio-political stability is indeed a very rare commodity anywhere in the world, and that Brunei has managed to maintain stability is a credit worthy of any praise whatever the means Brunei uses - including racial affirmative action. Brunei belongs to the Bruneians, and that is a fact. What the Chinese are constantly complaining about clearly reveals their inability to understand the fears and aspirations of the Malay Bruneians, preferring instead to steamroll their agenda without scant regard for local sentiments. What is further clear is that the Chinese's demands for so-called "equality" if investigated carefully would show that they, the Chinese, would gain a distinct advantage over the Malays, founded upon their rooted economic superiority. The crux of the issue here is, in Huntington's phraseology, a clash of civilisations. Chinese behaviour in Brunei, and compounded by other Chinese around the world, shows that they are unwilling to integrate into the society that they have lived in. A vast majority of them speak the local language poorly, they live in their own local concentrations (thus the China Towns!  you find them almost in every major city in the world), they build their own schools outside of the national system (in Brunei it is only recently that they have integrated their educational system) and when things get rough in that country, they're the first to leave.
Finally, it’s not just because they're Chinese, or Indian or any other ethnic type, but it is because, in the Brunei context, they're also not Muslims. And that is the root of the problem. If the Chinese were predominantly Muslims, I am of the opinion that racial integration would be smoother when bounded by a common theological ground. Global Hermit paradigm68@hotmail.com 26.02.2002
SINCERE APOLOGIES FROM MAT!! First to 'A Woman Doctorate Holder', I offer my apologies.  Although this was unintentional, I never assumed him (OR HER) to be a man.  I just meant 'MAN' in the context as human.  A lot of my colleagues are females and professionals so I don't have anything against males/ females.  To end the subject I am bold enough as to make the apology.
And to the Doctorate Man (OR WOMAN!!) and to those who read my previous post, my apologies too for the 'If you can't beat them, join them' proverb.  I admit that was not the correct advice or opinion.  However, whilst during writing the post, I was a bit emotional as I was writing from my past experiences.
It is disappointing when I think of the qualifications that I have struggled for, in some scenarios, they are all POINTLESS, as at the end of the day, NEPOTISM plays a major part in shaping our future.  Maybe this applies to some of you as well.
InsyaAllah society will change for the better one day.  We should live in the hope that in the near future, it is your true ability and potential that determines your future.  We should consider ourselves lucky in the first place as we know we have a VERY STRONG, COMPASSIONATE AND CARING LEADER in His Majesty.

Also to the well-graduated man (OR WOMAN!!), please use an easier pseudonym!!
Assalamualaikum. MAT!! awg_md_2@hotmail.com 26.02.2002
To DotDLL Please refer to one particular message Robert Heng posted some time ago. He claimed that he is "loyal" (patriotic?) to the Government of His Majesty and yet at the same time, his words of criticism to the government reflected otherwise. I was merely refuting his lame claims, so that's that. If he wanted to criticize the government, do not even attempt to make a boisterous claim that he's a loyal subject because his actions and words clearly didn't show that. Do you get the point I am trying to make here? And by the way, what's up with questioning my patriotic spirit? What's your point exactly or maybe you don't have one at all? Just simply fancy trashing people about without checking out the facts beforehand? Anti Robert Heng + Minority 26.02.2002
In defense of BnObserver TO DotDLL: I think you ought to read previous Have Your Say, then you'll get a clearer picture of what the whole debate was all about. Robert Heng and a fellow counterpart, Minority, blatantly brushed off the Brunei Malays, in particular the Government, by saying that we inflict prejudice against the Chinese community. Robert Heng further added that the Amedeo Saga would not have occurred if it had not been for the poor system the Government was and is implementing. From the way we see it, he was pointing his fingers to the Malays (for the Govt. is made up of the Malay majority and also his previous claims which laid the blame of injustice on the Malays) for the collapse of Amedeo. What BnObserver did was merely turning the tables against Robert Heng by claiming that the whole mastermind behind Amedeo was Danny Wong, a Chinese ethnic. And it worked because now we're getting reactions from others (namely YOU) saying that it is unfair to make silly overgeneralizations!
You see, Robert Heng and Minority made similar overgeneralizations of the Malays and we didn't fancy it one bit at all. Now, how does it feel to taste your own medicine? And by the way, by positing to us the question on the race of the money-laundering VIPs, you are actually spitting into the wind. Do you realize that? Malay and proud to be one 26.02.2002

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